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Post by matt78 on May 24, 2016 6:30:23 GMT -6
Loved the latest youtube video about Jesus not being a Rabbi. When I was in evangelical Christianity there was a teacher who was trained by a messianic Rabbi. He is very knowledgable and said Jesus wasn't just a rabbi but a rabbi with "Shmekah." This meant he could make his own yoke and have his own authority. Also that the silent years of Jesus in the Gospels were the same as a Rabbi's training period, which proves he was training as a rabbi. Would love your comments on these things. thanks
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Post by beachy on Jul 10, 2016 10:00:07 GMT -6
Yahushua was addressed as "good Rabbi" at one point and he wanted to know why the man called him "good" which he questioned for obvious reasons and his answer reflected it. But he did not deny being a rabbi. If you examine his writings from the perspective that he was a Pharisee but of a particular sect, a great deal becomes clear. He was against any kind of pressure or coercion in the "making" of converts ("beware of Herod & the Pharisees" who aligned themselves with him). (Herod was of Idumean descent, a people forcibly circumcised by Judeans). He was also against any kind of pressure or coercion in promoting obedience to the Eternal. And he made it clear, he was for obeying the Eternal above the commandments of men, i.e., anything added to the Torah of Moshe in which those adding a commandment used it to elevate themselves as "authorities." He may or may not have been "ordained." But man's ordination does not convey authority where the Eternal has not conveyed it, not can man supersede or deny authority the Eternal has conveyed. The sect I refer to is mentioned by Josephus where he states, "Judas the Galilean was the author. These men agree in all other things with the Pharisaic notions; but they have an inviolable attachment to liberty; and say that God is to be their only ruler and [master]. They also do not value dying any kind of death, nor indeed do they heed the deaths of their relations and friends, nor can any such fear make them call any man lord . . . .” Antiquities 18.1.6
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Post by jewishrecovery on Aug 8, 2016 13:05:47 GMT -6
in the Toldos Yeshu it lists him as being educated as a beis midrash but being expelled for disrespecting the sages, honestly what difference does it really make, he says a lot of things that are against halakha
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